{"id":7350,"date":"2022-04-05T16:32:41","date_gmt":"2022-04-05T20:32:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/jennydeupree.com\/?p=7350"},"modified":"2022-04-05T16:34:51","modified_gmt":"2022-04-05T20:34:51","slug":"april-1994-interview-for-journey-into-courage-video","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jennydeupree.com\/?p=7350","title":{"rendered":"April 1994: Interview for Journey Into Courage Video"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In 1994, Bess O&#8217;Brien decided that it was time to stop doing performances of <a href=\"https:\/\/jennydeupree.com\/?p=3533\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Journey Into Courage<\/a>, and to make a video. I went back to find the link to the video, and discovered that I have already published some of this in <a href=\"https:\/\/jennydeupree.com\/?p=3141\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">September 2012<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>April 21, 1994<\/p>\n<p>Mary and Bess came to videotape an interview with me for the <a href=\"https:\/\/kingdomcounty.org\/shop\/journey-into-courage-dvd\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Journey into Courage video<\/a>.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I think the interview went well, I was able to be my passionate articulate self in answer to some of the questions.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Also at times the tears would rise up into my throat and spill out my eyes, and just as in performance I was able to let them be there and to keep talking.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I think I would feel uncomfortable if they were going to try to construct a 30-minute interview, but they only need about 5 or 10 minutes.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>They also took a lot of &#8220;still&#8221; pictures of different parts of the house, so some of the interview will become &#8220;voice over.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Some of the interview questions were expected &#8220;How did you hear about Journey?&#8221;<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Some were not \u2014 and got me thinking about things in new ways.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>One was &#8220;How has building this house been a healing experience for you?&#8221;<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>That&#8217;s quite an intriguing concept.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I think it was a healing experience in many ways, but it&#8217;s very hard to say why.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I ended up saying that it was because Dana and I worked so well together on the project.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>She also asked about my spirituality, and I think I did manage to say something about the sacredness of every day things.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Bess asked something about my anger, which surprised me, I don&#8217;t think of myself as an angry person.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>But I guess one of the gifts of Journey is the ability to use my anger, consciously and effectively, in the service of what I value.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>She asked me about the advantages and disadvantages of growing up wealthy, I said something about not experiencing myself as &#8220;wealthy&#8221;, but that I was glad for a good education, that the money gave me time, time to write in my journal and to explore my psyche, and made it possible to see good therapists.<\/p>\n<p>Well!<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I hope it will work out that they can use the best pieces and not the ones where I stumbled and didn&#8217;t say it very well.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>They didn&#8217;t get: me walking the dog, and circle dance.<\/p>\n<p>When it was time to go to bed, I discovered that I felt so good in my body that it was hard to go to sleep. It felt like a lot of little doors in me, that are normally shut down, were now wide open.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>It felt like I had really been appreciated for the very first time.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>It felt wonderful.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>And I notice today that my body feels better, not so stiff and sore.<\/p>\n<p>Bess and Mary commented on how well I was able to articulate the answers to some of the questions.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Bess said &#8220;You&#8217;re so succinct that sometimes you answer five of my questions at once.&#8221;<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I was thinking about how that is part of my cosmic job, to speak for the voiceless, to articulate what other people feel, but can&#8217;t express in words.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I have been angry that a person of intelligence wealth and creativity had her life so damaged by childhood abuse that she has never been able to live up to her promise.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>But something that is desperately needed in our culture right now is for someone to speak out about the plight of abused children: and who can do that better than a person who is articulate and intelligent, who was herself abused, who has money and time to do the therapy, to work to understand what happened to her, and to write about it.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>If I chose this life, if I chose to be born to abusive parents, it was for the same reason that a reporter risks his\/her life to go into a war zone, to be a witness, to send back reports of what is happening on the battlefield.<\/p>\n<p>(A week later) \u00a0I just read over the story I wrote about a person who is despairing and depressed and then some new person or event comes into her life and gives her a new look at herself, a wider context, a sense of connection and meaning.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>And lo and behold! that&#8217;s exactly what happened when Bess and Mary came here to film me.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Their interest in me as a person, and in my house as a reflection of my creativity, and Bess&#8217; carefully thought-out questions, gave me back a sense of perspective on myself and my life, a chance to see my gifts and my accomplishments, instead of just my struggle.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>And that lets me see that I am not only the <a href=\"https:\/\/jennydeupree.com\/?p=2990\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Keeper of the Calendar<\/a>, an esoteric function which is of value only to the few who are trying to live a sacramental life, but I am also a reporter on the front lines.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>My job is not to change the culture or to wake people up, but to just keep reporting as honestly and objectively as possible, the conditions on the battlefield.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 1994, Bess O&#8217;Brien decided that it was time to stop doing performances of Journey Into Courage, and to make a video. 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